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Post by Godzilla on Jun 21, 2006 18:32:48 GMT
looks like i will be purchasing a pair then as soon as ive ruined my 020's Great feed back chaps
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Post by ZRX Gremlin on Jun 21, 2006 21:36:54 GMT
...see how they feel after 200 miles...they just get better...! 130 so far and yes they are a definite improvement over the 020s Rex has been shod with up to now. It's a different bike. A far smoother ride and a lot more manouverable at any speed. Rex is almost flickable through the twisties now and the old shakes on bumpy sweepers has gone. It just feels so much more stable and predictable. Case proven earlier this evening, chasing a friend on a Gixxer. I've pushed Rex a fair bit harder than I normally do and still feel as though there's bags more grip available. I've yet to try these out properly in the wet but have been over one fast decidedly damp stretch without so much as a twitch. I feel sure that my rapid deflation of the front tyre earlier is a fitting problem and nothing to do with the tyre itself.
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Post by Godzilla on Jun 21, 2006 22:22:09 GMT
Lets hope you dont have any more probs with the mac's from now on dude , i think pushing 140+ after your hoops havent been on for that long is a bit dangerous, especially when your front end has to deal with the forward weight distibution when braking from those speeds Take care man....
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Post by floog on Jun 22, 2006 3:07:37 GMT
Great write ups from SNOOPS & GREM You buggers!! What's a poor boy to do now??? I'll be needing a front in the not too distant future. I've got BT020's on at present which seem fine, although I don't ride anywhere near as fast as you two guy's, and find the 020's superb..... Should I switch to Mac's, or would they be better for the more 'spirited' riders........ I am a little more 'touring' I would say.......
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Post by ZRX Gremlin on Jun 22, 2006 18:29:56 GMT
If it's just the one tyre you nee FLOOG then I'm afraid, logically, you're stuck with the 020s. Tyres are always designed and marketed as pairs. It's not recommended even to mix tyres from one manufacturer. Only a copmplete bloody fool would mix tyres from two different manufacturers as there is no way that the pair can work together properly. A front 020 is likely to last you at least 10K miles which I'd guess is at least your annual mileage so you'll be stuck with Bridgestones for at least another 12 months. If your rear hoop is nearing the end of its service life and you fancy a change, now would be the time to do it and change both. The Macadam M100 is actually meant to be a sports/touring tyre and is an excellent and cheaper alternative to the 020. As snoopy has said, don't go for the M90s, they're meant to be a little more durable but probably at the expense of grip. So, in answer to your question I've used the Michellin Macadam M100 before, on a bigger, heavier and more powerful bike than Rex and was always happy with them. Durability was never an issue, neither was grip, either in the wet or dry. Having been 'brainwashed' into thinking that Bridgestone are the only tyres for Rex I've always felt reluctant to change, particularly for a cheaper tyre. ( you only get what you pay for and i certainly didn't want to compromise the handling of my bike for the sake of a few quid). However, in this instance, having trusted snoopys excellent judgement I find that the Michellins are more than up to the job and now wish I'd have bitten the bullet and changed sooner. Most of my riding is in fact touring orientated (2 up, bruised kidneys for misbehaviour ) but it's good to know that when the opportunity arises to go for a spirited solo ride, Rex will be up to the job with these tyres.
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Post by floog on Jun 22, 2006 18:59:22 GMT
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jun 25, 2006 19:50:40 GMT
So how you finding the M100's now youve put some miles on them Grem? Ive got about 600 miles on mine now & they just seem to get better. Well impressed!!!
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Post by ZRX Gremlin on Jun 25, 2006 20:50:58 GMT
I've now covered over 250 miles on mine and am extremely impressed with them. Some of my "testing" this afternoon was in the wet, wet being the operative word, with standing water in many places. Obviously, a lot more care is needed in these conditions, especially after a long dry spell on these unfamiliar (to me) roads. I can happily report that the M100s took it in their stride, still feeling planted and confident.
Todays ride bought to mind my previous experiences of these Michellin tyres on that GPz1100e. That was always sure footed in the wet too. Is it just me or are these Michellins grippier than the Bridgestone 020s ? The whole bike just feels so much more stable and planted in all conditions.
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jun 25, 2006 21:02:23 GMT
I like em...seem to really suit the Rex. Glad no one else likes them(mind you,theyve never tried them...)cuz theres more for us...!
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Post by ZRX Gremlin on Jun 25, 2006 21:12:13 GMT
cuz theres more for us...! I've already got a spare one in stock.
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jun 25, 2006 21:51:37 GMT
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Post by Les on Jun 26, 2006 19:25:16 GMT
Now at the moment Im running a set on Conti Road Attacks which also seem to be better (IMHO) than the two sets of 020's i had previously. I personnaly think that the 020's are reaching the end of their production run (they have been around a while now) and that anything that has been evolved in the last couple of years will have better grip and possibly better milage as tyre manufacturers improve compounds etc. whats your opinions
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jun 26, 2006 19:57:56 GMT
I think the Mac 100X has been around for as long as a the 020,but has been somewhat overlooked. A shame as its a great tyre. The 020 has had a good run,but theyre becoming a bit out of date as new designs come in. I really rate the Avon AV45/46ST. A fantastic modern tyre. Sadly though theyre very expensive when you can get the Mich Mac M100X for so little money & not notice much difference. The tyre arguments will rage on,but unfortunatly most opinions are based on what people have read in mags or heard their mate tell them down the pub & sadly not from first hand experience
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Post by Les on Jun 26, 2006 20:03:39 GMT
The tyre arguments will rage on,but unfortunatly most opinions are based on what people have read in mags or heard their mate tell them down the pub & sadly not from first hand experience Totally :agreed: Mainly because as far as I can tell, about 90% of the gentlemen that attend my local pub bike meet are still on the original tyres that came with the bike. and most of those that arnt are running the most expensive rubber they can buy on the assumption that if its expensive it must be sticky.
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Post by ZRX Gremlin on Jun 27, 2006 17:32:37 GMT
.......and most of those that arnt are running the most expensive rubber they can buy on the assumption that if its expensive it must be sticky. Either that or they are scared of shelling out what amounts to a lot of money to try something different after having been brainwashed by bike/tyre manufacturers/Owners Clubs into the belief that a particular tyre is the only one that is any good for your bike. I've got to admire anybody who's willing to experiment and try something different, particularly if it could turn into an expensive mistake if it doesn't work out.
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