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Post by wardourdrive on Sept 12, 2006 8:29:00 GMT
I think it is about time I gave the S a treat and changed the oil and the filter. Done a couple of Thousand mile now so a good idea me thinks. Anyway I have oil and need to know the best place to get a good quality filter from. I know everyone has views on oil so I certainly don't want to start that discussion again but filters might be a different ball game.
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Post by firmhand on Sept 12, 2006 13:44:18 GMT
I was thinking of using K&N they do dam fine airfilters and there cheap on ebay but i'm no expert by a long way!! Also picked up a magnetic sump plug, came from Germany and cost me under a tenner, seems like the right way to go but again i'm no expert!
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Post by lightspeed on Sept 12, 2006 13:45:07 GMT
This "discussion" could easily get just as heated as an oil thread, what with OEM afficionados, aftermarket only devotees, and those who say, "who cares, get the cheapest and change them often".
BTW, If you intend to change the O ring (not everybody does) the Kaw filter doesn't come with one.
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Post by floog on Sept 12, 2006 17:38:37 GMT
Go for a K&N oil filter .....quality engineering and it adds 25BHP as soon as you fit it ....The bike wheelies from the off and feels hugely more powerful, and the top speed is at least 10MPH more..... Oh ......no it doesn't My mistake
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Post by bikesnoopy on Sept 12, 2006 18:36:05 GMT
Theres not much to choose between filters. They all filter oil,thats all. Theres lots of different brands & most of them are identical. The genuine Kawasaki one is only £4.50,so use one of those at that price if it make you feel better. Cant say these magnetic sump plugs do it for me. If they worked THAT well & did that good a job,every engine ever made would be fitted with one as standard. I had one on my Blackbird that the previous owner had fitted. Everytime i changed the oil,it was spotless! What a waste of money. Id rather put a tenners worth of petrol in the tank...
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Post by firmhand on Sept 12, 2006 19:47:05 GMT
Theres not much to choose between filters. They all filter oil,thats all. Theres lots of different brands & most of them are identical. The genuine Kawasaki one is only £4.50,so use one of those at that price if it make you feel better. Cant say these magnetic sump plugs do it for me. If they worked THAT well & did that good a job,every engine ever made would be fitted with one as standard. I had one on my Blackbird that the previous owner had fitted. Everytime i changed the oil,it was spotless! What a waste of money. Id rather put a tenners worth of petrol in the tank... £4.50 i paid £15 odd quid for a genuine o/e filter for my little Yamaha!! think i was had then, wouldn't have minded but it was only the size of a cotton reel, you live and learn i suppose , cheers snoop i'll stick to o/e then. As for the sump plug i remember me dads Mini had one and it used to come out looking like a hedgehog, mind you that was nearly 30 years ago and theres a big diffrence between a 30 year old Mini engine and an 05 Rex, i'll bung it in anyway as i've bought it let you no how i get on! cheers
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Post by bikesnoopy on Sept 12, 2006 20:33:27 GMT
Well,it certainly wont do the engine any harm...
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Post by jefflthomas on May 26, 2007 18:53:21 GMT
the OEM oil filter has the right flow rate, if you use an aftermarket filter it could change your oil pressure & low ain't good!!!!!!!
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Post by floog on May 26, 2007 19:05:48 GMT
the OEM oil filter has the right flow rate, if you use an aftermarket filter it could change your oil pressure & low ain't good!!!!!!! Jeff, Most quality aftermarket filters are manufactured to at least meet, and often exceed original manufacturer specifications As an example, I have used K&N oil filters since they released them several years back. K&N oil filters are made to exceed requirements with thicker cannister walls for strength and durability, they can also withstand higher oil pressure than standard They use resin impregnated cellulose filter media, allowing higher flow rates and superior filtration. They're also Compatible with the Latest in Synthetic Engine Oils, as well as all standard oils I'm a fussy so and so when it coms to filters/oils etc, but K&N air and oil filtrs have done me proud over the year Incidentally, a huge welcome to you Jeff I see you are from Toronto. The Floog clan reside in Sidney by the sea, Vancouver Island, Beautiful British Columbia. Another of our member, LIGHTSPEED lives just the other side of the Rockies
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Post by jefflthomas on May 26, 2007 20:14:08 GMT
i've seen a few bikes with the oil light staying on due to aftermarket filters. i'm sure not all your membership knows the difference between good & shyte as do you. i got the impression that they were sticken' in the cheapest thing they could find so i used the don rumsfeld srategy. ever been fungus hunting in duncan?
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Post by floog on May 26, 2007 21:07:53 GMT
ever been fungus hunting in duncan? Funnily enough I am a member of the Vancouver Island Mycological society and make regular speeches
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Post by jefflthomas on May 26, 2007 21:47:15 GMT
that's trippy.
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Post by floog on May 28, 2007 6:57:56 GMT
OIL FILTERS- THE TRUTHThis is really pertinent to this debate. I've done some investigation work and coincidentally, the CB site are asking questions about oil filters as well. What I found out quite amazed me: So, we all assume that Kawasaki and Honda build special oil filters for the ZRX1200R or the CB1300SA that are top quality right ...... erm wrong actually Honda designated a 15310-MCJ-003 oil filter for the CB1300SA. But, like all Japanese manufacturer's, they simply put down the specifications on the filter and dimensions and give those to an outside manufacturer who is in favour with them at the time In Honda's case, Toyo Roki were chosen to construct the filters. Just recently, Honda Japan has decided to terminate the use of Toyo Roki filters and have turned to a French company to produce them. The new filters 15410-MCJ-505 have been reported to be of a lesser quality by CB owners, and some rust at the collar very quickly ALL jap bike manufacture res follow the same process. They might be stamped Kawasaki, but they are not Kawasaki made parts, and the quality is not necessarily the best you can buy, we all just assume that they are top notch Kawi made FRAM filters are widely regarded as the worst filters on the market. Made to a budget, cheap construction, MDF type end caps etc.....FRAM filters are actually sometimes used by the Japanese companies as replacement filters....nobody is told, and they are not stamped as FRAM...... GET TO THE POINT FLOOG OEM filters are good quality, and made to company specs, but quality control can vary, and there are very good oil filters on the market that generally meet and exceed oem quality. Either do your homework on filter spec, or simply trust a good name. I have used K&N's and they are excellent, Puralator in the US are very highly rated, HIFLOFILTER rate highly, as do Putoline, then there are Delo and Kyoto..... My personal view is never to buy cheap pattern parts for any bike, I never have and I never will. What everyone else does, of course, is completely up to them
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Post by firmhand on May 28, 2007 7:13:38 GMT
My first job at the tender age of 16 was to sit at a table opening 4 packs of NGK spark plugs and put them into single green Jaguar box's with "Genuine Jaguar Parts" stamped on the side, seem to remember we did the same with screen wash and a few other bits and pieces, make your own minds up but from what i could tell you were being charged an extra quid or so just for the box.
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Post by Les on May 28, 2007 8:57:24 GMT
FRAM filters are widely regarded as the worst filters on the market. Made to a budget, cheap construction, MDF type end caps etc.....FRAM filters are actually sometimes used by the Japanese companies as replacement filters....nobody is told, and they are not stamped as FRAM...... See I never knew that, and its a bit worring as FRAM filters are widely used in the ship and aircraft industry as filters for thier engines. and marine gas turbines are fairly fickle things with little or no tolerance's for mistakes.
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