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Post by bikesnoopy on Jun 18, 2006 16:22:21 GMT
After about 6 weeks of making minute adjustments virtually every ride,this is what ive come up with... FRONT: Preload-2 lines showing Compression-5 clicks in Rebound-Max(eg:screwed right in) Fork tubes dropped 5mm through the yolks Fork brace New fork oil REAR: Preload-Pos 3(pos 4 with Mrs Snoops on board) Compression-3 Rebound-4 Flipped eccentrics Tyre pressures 36/42 Ive flipped the eccentrics more for extra ground clearance than quicker steering(not that it seems to make much difference to the steering anyway...). Im not gonna fiddle anymore. I dont think a Rex can handle any better on stock suspension than how its handling right now. Id need USD's & Ohlins to improve it further...both just a dream. I happy with it...
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Post by ZRX Gremlin on Jun 18, 2006 17:59:51 GMT
My suspension settings are >> here << I know that a good many Rexers have used these to good effect and they are a vast improvement over the stock settings found in the owners manual. Has your recent change to Michellin tyres had any effect on your chosen suspension settings? I know thatchanges to tyre pressures themselves can make a dramatic difference to the handling. When I first owned my Rex I was running at 36/36 as specified in the manual and I know that others who tried to change the rear tyre pressure to the (correct) 42 psi found it too firm for comfort. I got round this by simply altering compression and rebound settings.
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jun 18, 2006 19:23:15 GMT
I started with the base factory settings & tweaked them to somewhere near my old Rex. Because of the ZX9 C2 RWU forks on that bike(approx 1 " shorter)the settings from that didnt work. So i just took a screwdriver & spanner out with me on every ride for the last 6 weeks or so,making minute adjustments as i rode.Gradually & painstakenly i arrived at these settings. Ive tried altering them a little here & there,but keep coming back to them. As i say...im happy with the way the bikes handling now. Interestingly,my settings arent too far from yours Grem...just a little "more" of everything... Its a more of a "sports" set up-not a comfy one...! Although,that said,its far from un-comfy! Dunno if the tyres made much difference to the settings. The tyres on the bike were so worn out when i got it,it was hopeless trying to "hone" the suspension as long as they were on there. Ive come up with these settings using the Macadam M100's,so theyve bedded in nicely as ive been tweaking it. Thats why i found it so easy to keep up with that Blade yesterday...cuz my bike's beginning to "gel" now
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Post by ZRX Gremlin on Jun 18, 2006 19:47:37 GMT
Interestingly,my settings arent too far from yours Grem...just a little "more" of everything... Yes, I'd noticed that. Without taking the Mickey out of either of us, our bikes carry differing weights. The settings on mine feel a bit on the firm and sporty side to me too.
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jun 18, 2006 20:42:56 GMT
Hey...you callin me a fat bastid. . .
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Post by oldninjaron on Jun 23, 2006 8:42:34 GMT
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jun 23, 2006 11:10:39 GMT
Have a glance at 1100/1200 FAQ...also look at Grems settings. The S is slightly different to the R on the front,due to the extra weight. I think suspension settings is a very personal thing. We all ride differently,weigh different,have different tyres,one up,2 up,touring,trackdays,fast road etc etc. At the end of the day(i HATE that saying)its how YOU feel the bike handles for YOU. Only you will know what you expect from it & want from it. Id start with some "middle of the road" settings & tune them from there. The ZRX is very underdamped on the front,so wind on plenty of rebound damping(screw atop the forks)when experimenting. Good luck
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jun 23, 2006 11:39:04 GMT
BTW...if youve been riding since the 1880's,dont you think youre a little old to be still riding. . .
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Post by BADGER on Jun 23, 2006 17:24:04 GMT
OldninjaRon, if youve been rding since 1880, i'd like to know what your first bike was..? and if you that old, i say good on ya mate BTW :hello: there oldninjaron ...welcome in :bye:
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Post by ZRX Gremlin on Jun 23, 2006 17:35:43 GMT
My settings.Or rather, excellent settings borrowed from Gary Jaherne from ZRXOA. I know these have been used successfully by a good many of us with only very minor deviations. These would be my recommended baseline settings as opposed to those in the user manual which are way too firm for comfort or indeed optimum handling. Getting the suspension preload set correctly for your weight is by far more important than anything else. It's this that sets the ride height of the bike and allows the steering/chassis geometry to work within the limits it was designed for. Contrary to popular belief, it's still the springs that do all the work. The adjustable damping is there to allow a degree of control over how they work. This enables you to increase or decrease the rate of spring movement or how quickly your suspension moves. For instance, increasing the damping doesn't make the suspension any harder as such but progressively slows down it's travel making it feel that way. What you are trying to acheive by altering your damping is to keep the bike at a constant ride height dependant upon load and road conditions. Having said all that, there are no ideal settings. Suspension settings for road are always going to be a bit of a compromise. For billiard table smooth main roads, a firm setting may be desirable. Those same settings will have you bouncing about all over the place when the going gets rough. No, what suits you and what you are comfortable with as that compromise is all the more important. Happy twiddling. ;D
My own deviations from those recomended settings are as follows: 1 extra line of preload on the front forks, leave damping as recommended above. For two up riding, add 2 notches of preload to rear springs and increase compression damping 2 clicks. Add another line of preload up front.
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Post by ZRX Gremlin on Jun 23, 2006 17:36:51 GMT
Forgetting my manners again. :hello: & welcome to :uk: oldninjaron.
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Post by floog on Jun 23, 2006 18:14:34 GMT
Forgetting my manners again. :hello: & welcome to :uk: oldninjaron. And from me also
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Post by floog on Jul 13, 2006 10:47:01 GMT
Happy at last with my rear suspension fettling After weeks of twiddling and testing I have got the rear suspension settings right for my weight, and style of riding: SPRING PRELOAD 4th ramp setting COMPRESSION DAMPING 2 on the dial REBOUND DAMPING IIII REAR TYRE PRESSURE 40psi Obviously a very personal thing but the bike is now stiffer and less wallowy, and seems to track better in and out of corners. I have lot's more confidence following a trip over to my folks this morning, and it feels tauter and more precise now.....Jobs a good'n
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Post by lightspeed on Jul 13, 2006 13:48:20 GMT
Generally speaking, less compression and more rebound from stock seems to work best. Looks like that's about where ya settled. Not the latest cutting edge stuff, but waay better than what came from Mama Kaw.
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Post by motomarco99 on Jul 15, 2006 20:30:24 GMT
chaps , I recently became the proud owner of a rex and thought the handling to be resonable, but after applying the definative settings, I can say that the handling is much improved. just wish id done it before I went through Pyrenees. still means ill have to go again now. cheers for the advice.
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