deano
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Post by deano on Jul 25, 2006 15:27:24 GMT
Hi does anyone know of a way to adjust and lube the chain with the bike on its sidestand as planning trip to europe next may and cant take the paddock stand!
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Post by floog on Jul 25, 2006 16:04:52 GMT
I don't have an Abba or similar stand and do mine as follows: It states in the service manual:Check the slack with the motorcycle setting on it's side standSo I do..... Easy to adjust compared to many of my other bikes which didn't have the eccentric's. 1)Loosen the left and right chain adjuster bolts (One silver allen head bolt on each side end of swingarm) 2) Using allen wrench in your bike's toolkit, turn the big Gold adjusters forward or rearward to get the desired slack. Make sure both sides's adjuster notches are identical on both sides 3) Do up the silver chain adjuster clamp bolts Chain lubing is pretty simple:After a ride, once home I spray the chain with Wurth chain lube (RIDE best buy-Has Very little fling off)....when the chain is hot after a ride the oil seeps in far more easily Spray all of the chain you can see then, push the bike forward or backwards (I prefer to sit on her and do this as she's a big beast to push and pull)....and then spray the next section...easy peasy. I place newspaper under the chain as I'm doing this to stop spillage which could get on your tyres etc Spray the outer plates on both sides and the centre rollers to ensure complete penetration and avoid spillage over tyre, cleaning off excess I've had no problems so far (Though I would like a stand eventually)
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jul 25, 2006 16:56:12 GMT
To answer the question...Put the bike on the sidestand.Get a piece of wood,stone,rock,metal,whatever you can lay your hands on & put it under the exhaust as your partner/mate/wife steadies the bike. You can now lean the bike over on the sidestand & wedge the piece of wood etc under the exhaust in front of the can as the rear wheel is levered off the ground.When its off wedge it in there so that the wheel spins freely. Now with your "helper" steadying the bike,you can crawl ronud & lube the chain. Best of all is an axle stand if theres one around. Dont spray chain lube on the outside of the chain by just spraying on the chain on the rear sprocket. It wont lube the chain where it needs luding & it will just throw it all off anyway. Spray the lube on the INSIDE run of the chain,just in front of the rear sprocket. This way,the chain & sprocket interface gets lubed properly & much less lube will fly off... As for chain adjustment...just adjust it the same as you would at home on your paddock stand.I really dont see a problem here
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Post by Godzilla on Jul 25, 2006 22:17:11 GMT
Dont mean to be rude snoops but ive tried this and unless you have done the angle grinder trickery on the side stand butt, i found it quite awkward to do..... if you are looking at the stand face on, left hand side of the bike, it is quite central to the middle of the bike and with the fecking great lump she holds- trying to keep the front end, straight let alone kick out is a tad frustrating, - I think if you give the side stand that extra couple of degrees, you will find it alot easier.... . I havent done it to the rex yet but have applied the same remedy to bikes of old!!!!!!
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jul 26, 2006 9:12:53 GMT
Ive never had a problem using this method Vinny...although id think twice about sticking an axle stand under that lovely Akra system of yours! Its fine,just sa long as you get someone to steady the bike while you do it
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deano
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Post by deano on Jul 26, 2006 15:47:26 GMT
thanks for your views i thought there was a tool available that was double threaded so it expanded as you place it under one side of your swinging arm lifting it just enought to spin the back wheel has anyone heard of this
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Post by lightspeed on Jul 26, 2006 16:27:28 GMT
There was a small, portable tool noted by someone on the OA a while ago that basically expanded and fit under the right side of the swingarm so the bike rested on the front wheel, the side stand and this tubular support (they included a velcro strap with which to strap the front brake on so the bike didn't roll off the rig while you were lubing the chain). Can't locate the thread at the moment. I'll do a bit more searching and see if I can turn it up.
When I'm on the road I use Floog's "lube a few inches of the chain and back the bike up to lube a few more" approach, but given the difference in circumfrence of the sprocket and the rear wheel, I usually find myself halfway across the parking lot before I've got the entire chain done (the one time I really miss a centrestand)
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deano
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Post by deano on Jul 26, 2006 17:36:22 GMT
thanks for that lightspeed cheers
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Post by lightspeed on Jul 26, 2006 19:51:01 GMT
thanks for that lightspeed cheers I've been searching over there, but have not found it. If it was not posted in one of the technical forums, they get pruned because there is just too much stuff going on. It was a small, two piece rig. One piece had a small foot on the end to prevent it from sinking into the pavement. The other piece had a threaded end with an adjustment nut on it and something that supported the swingarm or the axle eccentrics on the other. They came apart and fitted into a small package about 6" long along with the velcro strap. Once you set the overall height of the rig to support your wheel just off the ground (I think it had a locknut so the setting was one time only) you just inserted the swingarm portion into the lower support portion then rolled the bike forward or backwards slightly till the arm was vertical and holding the wheel off the ground. Then you strapped the brake lever down to keep it there while you lubed the chain. When completed, unstrap the brake roll the bike forward till the support dropped out, disassemble, wrap it back up in the container and pop it back under the seat. Somebody was selling them, but I can't remember who, or the name they gave the gadget.
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Post by Les on Jul 27, 2006 18:35:02 GMT
there is a small tool for sale i think you can get them from busters etc which is basically a couple of rollers on a plastic base, you just push the rear wheel onto it and then it spins freely. I must admit I aint got one, if im away from home and the chain needs adjustment and lub i do it exactly the way floog describes. found it, try here
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Post by lightspeed on Jul 27, 2006 19:35:27 GMT
linky no worky
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deano
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Post by deano on Jul 30, 2006 12:22:16 GMT
thanks for help trucker much appreciated will give them a shout
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Post by Renegade on Jul 30, 2006 13:04:48 GMT
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Post by georgedoors on Jul 30, 2006 17:52:28 GMT
so you carnt do the chain on paddock stand then or can we do it on paddock stand .. ??
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Post by Les on Jul 30, 2006 18:06:45 GMT
paddock stand for chain adjustment, no problem
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