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Post by BADGER on Feb 25, 2009 21:23:01 GMT
“1. Standard time schedule “Friday 13:05-13:45 125cc Free Practice 1 14:05-14:50 MotoGP Free Practice 1 15:05-15:50 250cc Free Practice 1 “Saturday 09:05-09:45 125cc Free Practice 2 10:05-10:50 MotoGP Free Practice 2 11:05-11:50 250cc Free Practice 2 13:05-13:45 125cc Qualifying Practice 14:05-14:50 MotoGP Qualifying Practice 15:05-15:50 250cc Qualifying Practice “Sunday 08:40-09:00 125cc Warm Up 09:10-09:30 250cc Warm Up 09:40-10:00 MotoGP Warm Up 11:00 125cc Race 12:15 250cc Race 14:00 MotoGP Race “2. From Czech GP, maximum 5 engines can be used in 8 races. No changing of parts will be permitted except daily maintenance. “3. Ceramic composite materials are not permitted for brakes disc or pads. “4. Launch control system is not permitted. “5. Electronic controlled suspension is not permitted. “6. Only 2 post race tests at Catalunya and Czech GP for development purposes using test riders only are permitted.” The first steps in reducing the costs of competing in the MotoGP World Championship have been officially announced by the Grand Prix Commission, following a meeting at the FIM headquarters at Geneva on Wednesday. Made in response to the global financial crises and Kawasaki's factory withdraw, which has potentially reduced the 2009 MotoGP field to just four manufacturers and 17 riders, the six rule changes include the expected reduction in track and test time - plus a limit on engine changes - but also ban launch control, electronic suspension and ceramic composite materials for brake discs or pads. With the new racing season starting on April 12 and the 2009 machinery already built reducing running costs, recently described as 'huge' by LCR boss Lucio Cecchinello, was one area that could be most easily influenced. Maintenance and running costs will be lowered by cutting track time during a grand prix weekend, limiting post-race tests and extending engine life (during the second half of the season). GP track time will be reduced by cancelling the Friday morning free practice session (for all three classes) and reducing the three remaining MotoGP practice sessions - including qualifying - from one hour to 45 minutes. Warm-up time and race distance are unchanged. Post race testing will be allowed on just two occasions, after Catalunya (June 14) and Czech GP (August 16) and even then “test riders only are permitted.” Engine life will be extended by limiting each rider to five engines for the final eight rounds of 2009. “No changing of parts will be permitted except daily maintenance”, although no penalties for breaking the rule were announced.
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Post by Burchy on Feb 25, 2009 22:54:34 GMT
Pleased to see that launch control will go, but can't see any logic in reducing qualifying times by 15 minutes as a way of reducing the "huge" overhead costs of MotoGP!
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Post by brakeline on Feb 26, 2009 8:30:28 GMT
it means the riders kin wear there stupid sunglases more, therefore getin more personal sponser money, which inturn means they kin get paid less. And a bet you awe thot Brakey wis loopy.
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Post by Burchy on Feb 26, 2009 9:21:05 GMT
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Post by BADGER on Feb 26, 2009 12:36:27 GMT
Any rule that brings the control of the machine back to the rider is going to be good and give closer racing (we hope). Getting rid of carbon brakes has got to be a good thing. What's the point of having "prototype" "development of technology" MotoGP racing, to be used on road going bike (and cars come to that via F1 etc) if they are not used on our bikes......do we have carbon fiber brakes ?, no we dont, cuz they need more heat than road bikes develop to work. Electronic launch control........ Never was a fan and never will be, dont see any point of it. If your at the back of the grid - practice days/times determine your grid position, if it happens you get the engineers that have given you the best electro launch, it all come to nowt if you have to back off cuz of the "slower bikes" in front of you ... Electro suspension control isn't that what practice is all about, setting the bike up to that track. ... god what next, some gizmo whiz kid in the pits on his lap top changing your suspension, up/down/harder/softer as you ride pass the pit .
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Post by Young Burchy on Feb 26, 2009 19:13:35 GMT
the closer the bike is to a WSB spec bike, the more we will see from the likes of Vale, Hayden, Vermulen and J.T I reckon, these guys are my favourites and they all perform well in the wet, so imo best know how to ride a bike properly.
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Post by brakeline on Feb 27, 2009 8:39:58 GMT
Me am a fan of awe this lectro gizmo stuff. We must move forward, racin fur the geeks is jus wot we need
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Post by lightspeed on Feb 27, 2009 17:17:09 GMT
I think they should just abandon the actual riding bit entirely. Ya. Let's just go full electronic. Lets see now. They can sign onto an online game, add whatever electronic effects they want, traction control, NOS, steering stabilization, launch control, fuel efficiency, aerodynamics, carbon fibre mouse pads, flash animated graphics that change from lap to lap (can display more sponsors ads that way), virtual mechanics, programmed throttle to the layout of the virtual race course, etc. etc. etc. and race each other online, without ever leaving the confines of their homes. Cheap, effective and universal! All the scoring, and highest score to date can be electronically tracked and displayed. No cost to anyone to participate and the quickest mouse hand becomes the world champion in motorcycle racing. That'd be Brill :sick:
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Post by brakeline on Feb 28, 2009 8:17:36 GMT
the closer the bike is to a WSB spec bike, the more we will see from the likes of Vale, Hayden, Vermulen and J.T I reckon, these guys are my favourites and they all perform well in the wet, so imo best know how to ride a bike properly. Why dont we just call it WSMOTOGPB then. Wish a knew wit a wis talkin aboot Think a will jus go wae Lightspeeds idea, saves a lotta probs.
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Post by BADGER on Mar 1, 2009 21:41:58 GMT
I think they should just abandon the actual riding bit entirely. Ya. Let's just go full electronic. Lets see now. They can sign onto an online game, add whatever electronic effects they want, traction control, NOS, steering stabilization, launch control, fuel efficiency, aerodynamics, carbon fibre mouse pads, flash animated graphics that change from lap to lap (can display more sponsors ads that way), virtual mechanics, programmed throttle to the layout of the virtual race course, etc. etc. etc. Or somthing like this Lighty ... www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM27fujbiXs&feature=related
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Post by brakeline on Mar 2, 2009 9:29:50 GMT
Fantastic wee things, had a shot o one once back in ma RC days (radio controll, even thses guys talked in abreviations ). Fabulous things but you needed a nice flat area to use em. Was tempted tho, but was too into areoplanes. A no, a wee bitty sad but there ya go.
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Post by lightspeed on Mar 2, 2009 17:35:05 GMT
Or somthing like this Lighty ... Ya, pretty much, 'cept it'd be just a website that everyone could log onto, some would log in as racers, others watchers. No rain delays, no long queues to get into or out of the track. No travel arrangements to make, no accomodation to pay for, no party time . . . . . Oh oh . . . . think I've just discovered a flaw in my concept ;D
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