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Post by jefflthomas on Oct 4, 2007 20:07:40 GMT
if my red arrow is the restrictor then do the e bay ones go on the head
which is more of a pain in the theres bolt holes in them
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Post by Young Burchy on Oct 4, 2007 20:19:19 GMT
late night revision time is currently commencing.........so far I have that the centre hole on the washer is 16mm in diameter. Give me time.
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Post by Young Burchy on Oct 4, 2007 20:43:51 GMT
Going by you picture I think you may have miss understood what i described or it was my fault in not describing it properly. Or maybe you are totally correct. But i think what your arrow points to is standard on all bikes. The front end of the carb pushes into this section and the washer sits in their, between the black section and the front of the carb. From memory my washers didnt have any screw holes, just a flat piece of metal with a 22mm hole sitting in a 33mm casting... Having a look at the zxr washers you are correct. Im finding it difficult finding any information at present, dads knows a good website in the states that has every part number for every bike, but i can't remember what it is called. Looking at some pictures of zxr carbs from google images and ebay, it does look like they have the capability of increased security by inserting those two small screws, without affecting fuel flow. I think they go where the gold screws are at the top of the pic, not 100% sure though. I'm no mechanic
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Post by phoenix on Oct 4, 2007 20:54:24 GMT
Seems like a load off hassle to me. Just pull a plug lead off, get your printout & bugger off
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Post by jefflthomas on Oct 4, 2007 21:03:31 GMT
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Post by jefflthomas on Oct 4, 2007 21:04:39 GMT
Seems like a load off hassle to me. Just pull a plug lead off, get your printout & bugger off :rotf:
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Post by jefflthomas on Oct 4, 2007 21:10:01 GMT
if your gonna contact jam anyway
maybe he has some
or would know where to get some cheap
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Post by Young Burchy on Oct 4, 2007 21:22:26 GMT
My very own Kawasaki triple, god that would run something like this I think :chicken:
He has offered for me to take the bike down to his dyno and he would make up some washers until the readout = 33bhp. Not sure how long the engine would last however.......poor thing.
There are two sets of 4 washers on fleebay at present at 99p and £10. Both end tomorro and both are from the same company. Took a bit of searching though. Have seen them go for about £35 in the past.
Think I might buy them anyway and if it all goes pear shaped I can easily move them on again on :ebay:
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Post by jefflthomas on Oct 4, 2007 21:30:46 GMT
jams on the zrxoc
send him the info & he'll know whether to buy them or not
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Post by Young Burchy on Oct 5, 2007 12:23:05 GMT
Popped down Kawasaki ADT Southampton and had quite a lengthy chat to the mechanic there. He managed to find out the both the zxr/zrx share exactly the same carburettors and so the washers would/should fit on the rex. Then he told me how much it would cost me through them to fit it and get a certificate. £210. Really nice fellas so if your in Soton, pop down and have a chat!
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Post by Young Burchy on Oct 5, 2007 18:48:41 GMT
I was outbid on both sets of washers with seconds to go. Oh well, I am sure so more will turn up soon.
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Post by BADGER on Oct 12, 2007 4:52:09 GMT
£210, thats why they are so nice. But thats me being cynical, sorry. and whats the story so far YB.?
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Post by Burchy on Oct 12, 2007 8:21:14 GMT
"What's the story so far?" I'll tell you a story!
Who's bright idea was it to "see if the valve clearances are OK"? Thought we would have a look yesterday, just to make sure etc etc. These shims are tiny. Just 7.48mm across and about 3mm thick.
Tank comes off easily enough and with a bit of wriggling so does the valve cover. Lost a bit of anti-freeze, but oh well.
Manage to break the gasket getting the timing rotor cover off, then out with the plugs.
Went round and checked all the clearances. They were all too tight except one that was just within the limits, so we have to get in further to change the shims.
Put the engine at TDC on No1 cylinder. Got to get the cam chain tensioner off at this stage. the cam chain on a 400 is between 2 and 3 cylinders, so the tensioner is right in the middle of the block under the carbs. Had to make an extra elbow joint in my right arm to get a spanner on it!
Cam timing marks are confirmed OK, so we cable-tie the chain to the sprockets and (eventually) get the inlet cam off. The shims are underneath buckets and they are about the most slippery things I have ever encountered. Pete eventually came up with the idea of using a fridge magnet! Much much better than a magnetised screwdriver. Did each valve in turn and miked the shim before replacing it so as not to mix things up. I reckon it's never been done before. All inlet shims were the same size at 3.00mm and all the exhaust, bar 1 were 2.90mm
A bit of shuffling around means we need 8 new shims. Mr K wants £6.95 each. wemoto.com want £3 each. Loads on :ebay: at about £2.50.
So that's where we are at the moment. the bike is spread around the garage in boxes. Did I mention that to replace the tensioner, the carbs have to come off, which means that the battery, air filter, side covers and collector box have all got to go?, Must have forgotton that bit.
All for a few shims weighing about 10gm each. The joys of self-service!
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Post by brakeline on Oct 12, 2007 8:58:23 GMT
"What's the story so far?" I'll tell you a story! Who's bright idea was it to "see if the valve clearances are OK"? Thought we would have a look yesterday, just to make sure etc etc. These shims are tiny. Just 7.48mm across and about 3mm thick. Tank comes off easily enough and with a bit of wriggling so does the valve cover. Lost a bit of anti-freeze, but oh well. Manage to break the gasket getting the timing rotor cover off, then out with the plugs. Went round and checked all the clearances. They were all too tight except one that was just within the limits, so we have to get in further to change the shims. Put the engine at TDC on No1 cylinder. Got to get the cam chain tensioner off at this stage. the cam chain on a 400 is between 2 and 3 cylinders, so the tensioner is right in the middle of the block under the carbs. Had to make an extra elbow joint in my right arm to get a spanner on it! Cam timing marks are confirmed OK, so we cable-tie the chain to the sprockets and (eventually) get the inlet cam off. The shims are underneath buckets and they are about the most slippery things I have ever encountered. Pete eventually came up with the idea of using a fridge magnet! Much much better than a magnetised screwdriver. Did each valve in turn and miked the shim before replacing it so as not to mix things up. I reckon it's never been done before. All inlet shims were the same size at 3.00mm and all the exhaust, bar 1 were 2.90mm A bit of shuffling around means we need 8 new shims. Mr K wants £6.95 each. wemoto.com want £3 each. Loads on :ebay: at about £2.50. So that's where we are at the moment. the bike is spread around the garage in boxes. Did I mention that to replace the tensioner, the carbs have to come off, which means that the battery, air filter, side covers and collector box have all got to go?, Must have forgotton that bit. All for a few shims weighing about 10gm each. The joys of self-service! glad your enjoyin yersel Old Burchy (so not to get you mixed up wae Young Burchy )
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Post by jefflthomas on Oct 12, 2007 17:03:47 GMT
Manage to break the gasket getting the timing rotor cover off Did each valve in turn and miked the shim before replacing it so as not to mix things up. Did I mention that to replace the tensioner, the carbs have to come off, which means that the battery, air filter, side covers and collector box have all got to go?, Must have forgotton that bit. All for a few shims weighing about 10gm each. The joys of self-service! just like my GPz is it wet or dry under the timing rotor cover? if it's dry grease the new gasket & it won't break next time :rotf: at first i read milked the shim , gotta get better reading glasses :teaspit: if your planning on future tune ups you might want to look into an APE camchain tensioner, it might save you a lot of hassle at least with self service you have the peace of mind of knowing the jobs done properly
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