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Post by patrick on Jul 27, 2006 19:47:09 GMT
Has anyone else had problems with mirrors and the 21mm nut coming loose. You can't tighten it up without causing damage. The nut is rounded and a 21mm spanner won't fit.
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jul 27, 2006 20:26:58 GMT
Hi Patrick & welcome to the site. What bike is it...a R or an S ? If its an R,its a common problem for the mirrors(or usually the left one)to come loose. Most common mod/fix is to drill through & put a grub screw in it.
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Post by Sunnyzrx on Jul 27, 2006 20:47:13 GMT
Welcome Patrick, I´m sure you´ll enjoy it here.
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Post by ZRX Gremlin on Jul 27, 2006 21:39:09 GMT
Welcome patrick. I'd guess it's the R model you have. The S mirrors are secured by 6mm (I think) bolts and not 21 mm nuts. Follow snoopys advice and you should be sorted.
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Post by KES on Jul 30, 2006 16:09:21 GMT
If you undo the nut take the mirror off turn it upside down the bolt you need to tighten is underneath.
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jul 30, 2006 20:01:29 GMT
If you undo the nut take the mirror off turn it upside down the bolt you need to tighten is underneath. . . . but the L/H one will still come loose at just over 100mph,as it doesnt have a lefthand thread like it should have. Drilling & putting a grub screw in is the only perminant fix im afraid
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Post by lightspeed on Jul 30, 2006 23:04:20 GMT
Solve the problem once and for all. Install some bar end mirrors. I have a set of Chrispy's mirrors (from the OA) and they are rock solid at all speeds. They are smaller than the stockers but you don't have half your field of view taken up by your elbows. Clear as a bell at all speeds and they don't fold up
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Post by bikesnoopy on Jul 31, 2006 17:11:38 GMT
. . . as long as you dont filter in traffic . . .
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Post by lightspeed on Jul 31, 2006 18:28:03 GMT
Yes, Chrispy's mirrors add about 1.5" to the width of yer bars, so do be careful if you're lane splitting (filtering).
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Post by kevrex on Aug 1, 2006 22:50:29 GMT
the only problem i have found is getting hold of a mirror for the rex with the 21mm nut, my left mirror is cracked after some scumbag tried to nick it allong with my gold dust caps just cant get a mirror with that fitting so rather than pay £34 for one mirror from kawasaki i will be investing in some bar end mirrors when funds allow
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Post by bikersneverdie on Aug 2, 2006 14:18:06 GMT
Hi everyone, I'm new to the site so greetings to all you fellow bikers. I have recently purchased a 2004 ZRX 1200 S imported from Holland, and have found this site to be of great help. I was really interested in this thread as it is dealing with the subject of mirrors. This is the one and only fault I can find with the bike. On reading reviews from all over the world before purchasing, it became clear that this is a fault common to them all along with some buzzing travelling through the foot rests / handle bars at certain revs. The foot rest / handle bar tingle I can live with, its not that intrusive. On the other hand the mirrors are annoying me. My mirrors are crystal clear up to 3500 RPM in any gear. In 5th gear between 65 and 85 MPH everything is simply a blur. I need not state the importance of good clear rear vision when biking due to certain people in cars and bikes that are usually (unfortunatley not always) coloured white with yellow and blue chequers, and our need to keep a watchful eye for these people when biking. I have looked at the Chrispy's mirrors, and to be frank, I feel they do not look the best for this style of bike, and that they look very old fashioned. (only a personal thought) Has anyone come up with a genuine fix to cut out the vibes on the original mirrors as yet? I would be really grateful for some feed back.
Ride safe
Robert
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Post by lightspeed on Aug 2, 2006 19:14:36 GMT
I wouldn't even consider Chrispy's mirrors for an "S" I think they look fine on the retro "R" Since the S mirrors are fairing mounted have you tried loosening the fairning mounts (not remove) settling the fairing back into place an tightening them up again? If the fairing isn't sitting correctly in the mounts that can make vibration worse. Any missing mounting hardware. Any place where pieces are supposed to be fastened down that aren't? Some have also found that if the carb synchronization is off the engine vibrates more. (BTW, all inline 4 engines have an inherent buzz or vibration somewhere in the 4500 - 5500 rpm range. Some manufacturers have spent the time & $$ to counteract it more than others) Since there are so many S riders over there, hopefully some of them can tell you if there are other fixes specific to the S model.
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Post by Sunnyzrx on Aug 2, 2006 19:36:09 GMT
bikersneverdie, welcome and lets hope your name holds true for all of us. Can´t help you with the mirrors I´m afraid but I´m sure someone here will know the answer. In the meantime..............enjoy.
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Post by ZRX Gremlin on Aug 2, 2006 19:39:46 GMT
First of all bikersneverdie, welcome to :uk: Our first Irish member if I'm not mistaken. The mirrors on the S model are inclined to vibrate a little bit although on mine, thankfully not as badly as some reports that I've heard. I have done a little bit to alleviate the problem. It's not so much the mirrors that vibrate as the fairing that they're fixed to. It's only a small vibe but is accentuated by the length of the mirror stems. Start by removing the fairing. Make sure that all mounting points are secure. any small movement here will show up as a big movement in the mirrors. When you remove the fairing, you'll remove the screen and inner panel (behind clocks). With the inner panel removed you then need to remove two bolts from the bracket below the clocks. With the side bolts, 2 each side, removed, the fairing can be pulled forwards (don't forget to undo the wiring harness multi-plug before doing this). As you pull the fairing forwards, if you look at the bracket below the two bolts you removed below the clocks you'll see a pair of rubber mountings. Before refitting the fairing, wrap a couple of turns of insulating tape or similar around the pegs they locate on. This will effectively tighten up the rubbers and help prevent the fairing from moving as much. If the above isn't clear enough, I can get you the relevant section, including pics, from the workshop manual. The last fix and definately the most effective and drastic will attend to the mirrors themselves. Start by pushing your bike over and breaking one of the mirrors. The mirrors are designed to move forwards and backward, not upwards so you've now broken the rivet that secures the arm to the bracket. Replace this with a suitable sized bolt. You can now adjust the tension of this bolt against the spring in the bracket and loctite it to save it vibrating loose. You now have one mirror that doesn't vibrate. Now do the other side the same way. Once you've fixed your mirrors using the above method, don't attempt to push your bike over again. This will break the mirror arm at the bracket so you'll need a new mirror and have to go through the whole routine again. The above "mirror fix" was researched and developed by Yours Truly. Hope it works for you.
On the subject of ZRX vibes, some of us here have replaced the standard 42 tooth rear sprocket with 44 teeth. Apart from the obvious gain in accelleration, with no loss of top speed I might add, much of the vibrating is lessened and moved a little further down the rev range. A point worth considering for future modding perhaps?
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Post by lightspeed on Aug 2, 2006 21:37:06 GMT
Thanks Grem I knew there'd be somebody along who could give more useful suggestions than me - a lowly R owner My next suggestion would have been to sell the S and buy an R where the mirror issue can be solved ;D
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